Question:Has anyone on this group fan a 50 miler? Is there a website where these races
are scheudled. I am looking for one in the Northeast.
How do you guys train for a 50 miler? I am sure it is pretty crazy?
Answer:
Has anyone on this group fan a 50 miler? Is there a website where these races
are scheudled. I am looking for one in the Northeast.
How do you guys train for a 50 miler? I am sure it is pretty crazy.
I'll race ya! Come join me and several dozen of "TheBillRodgers Haters Club
Runners" for the 1st annual "Run After TheBillRodgers 50 miler" to be held in
west Springfield Mass at Robison state park where I train. I haven't set a firm
date other than around mid june.
yes, you're crazy to want to run an ultra. i think DOT who post is into this
stuff....i sure in the hell am not. you just missed my clubs Ultra....8 laps
around Central Park right in the middle of New York City (it was last
month)...on a day when it was 24 degrees, 15 with the windchill factored in.
You want some of that? A hell of a lot colder than that Antarctica Marathon
and probably colder than that crazy stuff DOT talks about in Alaska....
Now if you really intend on diving into these crazy distance races...why go
soft? Go all out, how bout the Gobi March? 6 day/150 Mile race......you
game?
Haven't yet but will attempt one next month. There are many good web sites with
links to race calendars, etc. Here's one:
http://www.fred.net/ultrunr/
No, they go to pay my Dr bills in case one of you fucking whimpie ass twats can
catch me, and holds me so the others can kick my ass. If nobody catches me I
give the money to a worthy cause, my weed supply.
No, they go to pay my Dr bills in case one of you fucking whimpie ass twats can
catch me, and holds me so the others can kick my ass. If nobody catches me I
give the money to a worthy cause, my weed supply.
This doesn't give exact temperatures, but it does give 1st-hand account,
which I'm more likely to believe than weather stations given the
variability in temperatures across the continent.
You might need to use something newer than Netscape 4.7 to use the
links.
Keep in mind these folks started Feb 23. Hasn't been an update lately so
the last of the racers *might* be in, but I think the last may have
another day or so. My guess is the last 2 runners finished, and the 2
skiers are getting close - UNLESS there's another blizzard. They may not
be as interesting as reading them now compared to a daily basis because
there were days when nobody knew where anybody was because of the
storms. (That's also when we had some major wind with power outages,
ISPs off-line, etc.)
BTW, 24F is a really nice temperature to run in - and a heck of a lot
easier than warm stuff when traveling over snow. In fact, going to go
enjoy some cooler temperatures now.
Why the exception at multi-day? If it's a 7 day race just
how many consecutive days might you train? What about those
that run the entire Appalachian trail or west to east coast.
Interesting philosophy but let me assure you, for distances
past the marathon you will likely not get to the starting
line much less the finish.
And by the time you got to the 15k you had built up lots of
basic strength so some may be doing the distance but not
all. I'll warn you and you can take this for what it's
worth, the injury rate grows geometrically past the marathon.
The truly aggressive runner that wants to really push will
do back-to-back runs to emulate running on tired legs. As an
example, let's assume you planned to run a 9 hour 50, one
may try a 4 hour run on Sat and 2 hour run on Sunday. Time
on your feet means more than miles.
Even if you did manage to get in a 50 training run for 50
race, how long would you taper before the real deal? FWIW,
the average long run for a 50 is 20-35 miles. The long run
for the 100 isn't much higher although you will find people
racing a 50k/50 as a training run for a 100 if it lines up.
And by the time you got to the 15k you had built up lots of
basic strength so some may be doing the distance but not
all. I'll warn you and you can take this for what it's
worth, the injury rate grows geometrically past the marathon.
The truly aggressive runner that wants to really push will
do back-to-back runs to emulate running on tired legs. As an
example, let's assume you planned to run a 9 hour 50, one
may try a 4 hour run on Sat and 2 hour run on Sunday. Time
on your feet means more than miles.
Even if you did manage to get in a 50 training run for 50
race, how long would you taper before the real deal? FWIW,
the average long run for a 50 is 20-35 miles. The long run
for the 100 isn't much higher although you will find people
racing a 50k/50 as a training run for a 100 if it lines up.
But your legs don't know the difference between training and racing.
If running a given distance is likely to cause injury while training,
it will be just as likely to cause injury during a race. The only
difference is the taper before hand. For shorter races, (like the 1/2
or whole marathon), the conventional approach is to run the distance
or very near the race distance at slower than race pace. Couldn't you
do the same thing with a 50 miler, just take it at a lower intensity,
run down the hills more cautiously, take more frequent walk breaks,
etc., and stop early if you feel an injury coming on? You would still
need to taper for the training run, but not as much as you would for
the race, since the training run is lower intensity.
You sure can but if you plan to run say a 9 hour 50 which is
aggressive, do you plan to do one or more training runs of
12 -14 hours? Interesting notion but time on your feet is a
humbling feature. Even the elites that train at 100+ a week
do not pound mega-mile single runs. This is the same for the
Kenyans at the marathon distance.
Feel an injury coming on? This is not the way many injuries
happen. One does not suddenly get PF, ITBS, Tendonitis, etc.
these are micro tears over time which finally culminate and
you are down for significant time in recovery. And for these
longer distances, regardless of intensity, injury ratios are
geometrically higher.
However, based on my stand-alone marathon experiences, I think a 50
miler is probably harder because of the constant pounding from
running. In an Ironman, you're tired when you get to the run, but your
legs aren't beat up (or shouldn't be.)
