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race report: staten island half marathon

Question:Like I said before, I think 2 * HM + 15 should work at NYC

1."Should", based on what, your intuition never having run the course? Your thorough crunching of the numbers?

I'm basing that mainly on my own experience on a range of marathon courses, some easier than NYC, and some harder. 2.Which marathons harder than Grandfather have you done?






Answer:

1.Which marathons harder than Grandfather have you done? BTW, I'm not including Grandfather in that list of races I've "learned from". It wasn't a PR effort, so I wasn't pulling out all the stops.

Let me be clear -- I'm no expert on marathons. Dan's the guy for that. But I have trained and raced for a marathon PR on 3 different courses. And I've had the big-city race experience in some big 10-milers (like Army). I've done OK, and learned a few things along the way.

Here's what I don't get: I'm arguing that NYC is a typical "hard" marathon, where a prepared runner can reasonably shoot for 2 * HM + 12-15 min. You (and Lance, especially) seem to be saying that it's harder than that, some kind of special super-race. And yet you are targeting 2 * HM + 12 for yourself. So is there some kind of logical disconnect here?

2.True, I haven't run all 26 miles in one shot, but I've run 'em all in two pieces. You've got the 2 billion spectators, the hills, the elevation (air's pretty thin atop the Verrazano), the crowds, the bad weather, the epic quality of it all, etc. etc.

Here's what I don't get: I'm arguing that NYC is a typical "hard" marathon, where a prepared runner can reasonably shoot for 2 * HM + 12-15 min. Based on your assertion.

Please explain why so very few acheive this.

And yet you are targeting 2 * HM + 12 for yourself. So is there some kind of logical disconnect here?


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